Sometimes, your pool heater ignites but doesnt reach the desired temperature. The biggest reason for this is the heaters thermostat minimum setting is 70 and if colder water temperatures are allowed into the heater, the heat exchanger has to work a lot harder which can cause severe internal damage to the heat exchanger cracked burners and also will create an excessive amount of condensation that may cause significant. If theres a possibility of your heat exchanger being cracked, dont ignore it. I attempted to get to the location but it involved too much disassembly. Also, damage to the heat exchanger by corrosive water is not. Furnace with a cracked heat exchanger and flame rollout. For gas packs a company that does commercial accounts might be the better choice. The issue with a cracked heat exchanger having a damaged heat exchanger is a hassle due to the symptoms associated with it. Heat exchanger tube assembly for jandy lite2 250k btu heater. Combustion pollutants, such as carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide and sulfur dioxide, can cause eye and nose irritation, disorientation, sleepiness and nausea.
Featuring a compact design, the hie2 weighs in at 34%. In 2007, jandy became a member of the zodiac pool systems family of brands. These two words are nomenclature meaning the thin layer of metal that separates the good air that you breathe and the bad air comes from burning natural gas in a forced air heater or burning propane in a forced air heater. Signs your heat exchanger is cracked romaniuk edmonton. With two modes heat mode and bypass mode you can choose when water is directed through the heat exchanger. Whens the last time you have inspected and cleaned the heat exchanger. A number of things can go wrong in a furnace, but of all those things, a cracked heat exchanger is one of the most severe problems. The most common mishap in a heat exchanger is a crack, which happens from the metal changing temperatures. Signs and symptoms of a cracked gas furnace heat exchanger. I have a jandy pro series ehe350ns pool heater installed in. The heat exchanger is composed of one or more chambers in which the fuel is burned and through which superheated exhaust gases travel. This trips a safety switch and shuts down the furnace. A furnace with large, open heat exchanger cracks should not be operated until repairs are made.
Unless you are one of the top 3% of people who have all the money, replacing the furnace is going to hurt the pocket book if you have not planed for it, but it has to be done. One of the most essential parts of your pool heater is the tube assembly or heat exchanger. Miss a cracked heat exchanger and you put the homeowners at risk. Dec 31, 2017 the biggest reason for this is the heaters thermostat minimum setting is 70 and if colder water temperatures are allowed into the heater, the heat exchanger has to work a lot harder which can cause severe internal damage to the heat exchanger cracked burners and also will create an excessive amount of condensation that may cause significant. I can pretty much tell by looking at a furnace if it is no good, but a combustion analyzer should be used to confirm any suspicions.
I removed a number of panels from the unit and discovered there was a vertical crack maybe 120th of an inch wide and 2 inches long in the base of the heat exchanger. Not only that, but your personal safety and your homes safety can be put at risk. The heat exchanger was found cracked, however, this alone did not cause the poisoning. At its outset, a cracked heat exchanger is a problem that will go unnoticed by most homeowners. The heat exchanger, or heater core, is the most important part of your furnace, as it is hub of all combustion and heatrelated activity. Pool parts for freeze damage repairs intheswim pool blog. I open up the plenum and show the crack from the top. If the heat exchanger is under warranty, this option is a good way to go unless it is unavailable in the time frame needed, which can be immediate in cold weather. A rheem rgda model furnace is used for the demonstration. According to the hvac person, the cause of the leak is a very cracked heat exchanger this is also what came up when i was researching probable causes of the leak. A cracked heat exchanger might allow products of combustion to enter the air stream. Apr 25, 20 kung fu maintenance demonstrates how to repair a water leaking swimming pool or spa heater heat exchanger.
Replacing a heat exchanger takes time and knowledge that some dont have. Deterioration of the heat exchanger can impact your heater s operation. Jandy pro series is a pool and spa product brand headquartered in vista, california and founded in1958. Heat exchanger tube assembly for jandy lite2 250k btu. The heat exchanger, or heater core, is the most important part of your furnace, as it is hub of all combustion and heat related activity. Pdf repair of tubetubesheet weld cracks in a cracked. The cause of the failure has been analyzed, and the. Broken and leaking heat exchangers are responsible for about 1,500 deaths per year in the united states, and many more people are poisoned by exposure to toxic gasses that go unfiltered by defective heat exchangers. Aug 08, 2018 the most common swimming pool heater problems august 8, 2018 february 28, 2020 charlie ramirez installing and troubleshooting a heater that is still under warranty without proper licensing can forfeit your warranty under the manufacturers terms and conditions. Cracked heat exchangers, causes and solutions what is a heat exchanger.
Also last year it a drip, this year water is pouring from the back of the heat exchanger on the left side. After a hefty estimate on replacing a cracked pool heater header from his. As a homeowner, getting the news that your heat exchanger is cracked is a bit of a harsh blow. Heat exchanger components keys 1 thru 15 gas components keys 16 thru 18 exhaust system keys 19 thru 26. This video is to shows homeowners what a cracked heat exchanger looks like, the replacement heat exchanger and the labor intensity to. Jandy lxi low nox gas heater 2008present has the largest selection of swimming pool and spa replacement parts with over 70,000 parts in stock. May 12, 2000 miss a cracked heat exchanger and you put the homeowners at risk. It is a system which controls the primary climate inside your house or home enabling you to stay comfortable and healthy. I posted in last novemberdecember about my jandy heat pump that was leaking at the bottom of the canister that enclosed the heat exchanger. Find them too often, and your company could get a rep for using scare tactics. Theres a lot of good info on there, but some of it is misleading and there are a lot of straw man arguments made.
These two words are nomenclature meaning the thin layer of metal that separates the good air that you breathe and the bad air comes from burning natural gas in a forced air. This valve allows for you to divert water in different directions. Deterioration of the heat exchanger can impact your heaters. Gas is ignited and used to heat up the heat exchanger. In some rare cases, it can cause flame impingement when air from the blower enters the heat exchanger. While the co levels may not be high enough to trigger your co alarm, they can be high enough to cause headaches and other illness, which seems to have no. A cracked heat exchanger is pretty serious, as far as safety for your home goes. Zodiac r0018103 heat exchanger tube assembly replacement for zodiac jandy 250 lite2 ld, lg, lj pool and spa heater. Heat exchanger crack finder solution, heat exchanger.
Jul 25, 2011 chances are if you have a pool or spa, the pool builder used one or more valves manufactured by jandy. Pdf repair of tubetubesheet weld cracks in a cracked gas. A day or so ago, the heat exchanger cracked due to freezing. Thanks for watching guy browns youtube channel was. The blower position was such that even though there was a crack, no carbon monoxide entered the heated air. Located in the center of the furnace, it is where fire, gas and heat connect. Kung fu maintenance demonstrates how to repair a water leaking swimming pool or spa heater heat exchanger. Feb 02, 2014 a day or so ago, the heat exchanger cracked due to freezing assumed in my jandy lxi 400k btu pool heater. I show how a furnace reacts when there is a crack in the heat exchanger. Dec 21, 2012 a demonstration of how to clean a heat exchanger on an older draft hood style gas furnace. In an attempt to sell new furnaces, numerous heating contractors will lie about cracked heat exchangers. They are suggesting to replace the unit, as the cost of the repair would be almost as much as the unit. A cracked heat exchanger allows air from the furnace blower to interfere with the flame causing it to flutter or even roll out. A damaged heat exchanger in a gas furnace is potentially dangerous to a homes occupants and should not be ignored.
Even large, open heat exchanger cracks rarely introduce measurable levels of co into the heated space unless they are combined with other issues. The crack is open when the heat exchanger metal is at or close to room temperature. Build the perfect pool environment with jandy professionalgrade swimming pool equipment. Zodiac r0018103 heat exchanger tube assembly replacement for.
Combustion gases leaking from a cracked heat exchanger can cause frequent headaches as well as flulike symptoms. Zodiac r0018103 heat exchanger tube assembly replacement. Garys raypak heater, common on us pools, is similar to gas pool heaters made by jandy or laars, and the repair tips here could be used on most pool heater repairs. Inspect your heat exchanger for chemical or sanitizer damage. A technician may have told you that you furnace has a cracked or busted heat exchanger. Singer heating and cooling 3595 brooks rd, greenback, tn 37742, ph 8656405047. It can be hard to know if your heat exchanger is cracked by merely looking at it. Jandy pool heater parts from ignition control assemblies to heat exchangers, we have the jandy replacement parts you need to get your pool or spa heater up and running in no time. There are older, traditional ways for finding cracked heat exchangers, such as smoke bomb methods, which contractors have relied on for years. Some people choose to live in denial of the seriousness of a cracked heat exchanger. You know its serious and you know you need to do something about it. Diagnosis of a heat exchanger crack typically starts with a noheat service call. After the heat exchanger is hot, the air around the exchanger is warmed. A cracked heat exchanger not only spoils the performance of your furnace, but it will also create a safety threat to you and your loved ones.
Chances are if you have a pool or spa, the pool builder used one or more valves manufactured by jandy. Cracked heat exchanger in heat pump trouble free pool. A crackedplugged heat exchanger can produce more then 5000 ppm in the exhaust. There are only two options if a heat exchanger is bad. The american gas association has even put this in writing they say any visible crack or hole is reason for requiring replacement of the heat exchanger or furnace. It is important that the heat exchanger is taken care of as hazards can build from a faulty exchanger. Serious cracks were found at tubetotubesheet welds during the start up operation of a cracked gassteam heat exchanger in a gas plant. With a full line of pumps, filters, heaters, lights, valves, water sanitizers, and the automation solutions to control it all, jandy has the complete equipment package for any swimming pool or spa. In most systems there is negative pressure on the inside of the exchanger driven by the inducer motor. The most common swimming pool heater problems august 8, 2018 february 28, 2020 charlie ramirez installing and troubleshooting a heater that is still under warranty without proper licensing can forfeit your warranty under the manufacturers terms and conditions. Jandy pro series hie2 swimming pool heaterproven performance. If your heat exchanger is cracked, then replace your furnace asap.
A cracked heat exchanger provides a place for dangerous carbon monoxide to leave the furnace and enter your homes air. The heat exchanger is a key part of the furnace and is responsible for the actual heating of air. I have a jandy pro series ehe350ns pool heater installed. Jandy pool heater parts jandy replacement parts jandy. Heater headers are a cap on the end of the heat exchanger, which is a.
Dec 21, 2015 a damaged heat exchanger in a gas furnace is not an issue that should be ignored. Dangerous cracked heat exchangers in furnaces fossil fuels and cracked heat exchangers anyone who has an oil or gas boiler, oil or gas furnace, gas logs whether they be propane or natural gas, a gas stove or oven, or any woodburning appliance or fireplace, or appliance or heating device that burns fossil fuels you need a carbon monoxide. This air will then be distributed throughout the system. Mar 19, 2007 the crack is open when the heat exchanger metal is at or close to room temperature. Installation instructions for the hie2 combustion chamber. A cracked heat exchanger is typically noticed when the homeowner reports not having heat or when the. The hie2 sets the standard for pool heaters with a proven inuse record of over 20 years providing ultraefficient heating with up to a 95% efficiency rating which cuts operating costs by 15% or more. Furthermore, the crack resulted from not installing the new burners, which accompanied the new heat exchanger. We carry a wide selection of jandy pool heater parts for the lite 3, lx, lt, hie2, cl3, lxi, legacy and hot shot series pool heaters. Repairing jandy valves red square pools 702 5307331. The first step is simply to look where most homeowners cant.
A damaged heat exchanger in a gas furnace is not an issue that should be ignored. A day or so ago, the heat exchanger cracked due to freezing assumed in my jandy lxi 400k btu pool heater. Leaking and broken heat exchangers expose homeowners to toxic gases, which can be very dangerous to you and your family. For residents of georgia, having an hvac, or heating, ventilation and air conditioning system, is imperative. Beware of an unethical technician who finds a crack with a camera on a furnace that seems to be running just fine. A day or so ago, the heat exchanger cracked due to. The front header can also crack if left full of water. Dec 02, 2015 a cracked heat exchanger allows air from the furnace blower to interfere with the flame causing it to flutter or even roll out. I called aquacal and they said they do not sell parts for the heat exchanger. As the exploded picture shows below, each valve has essentially 7 parts, consisting of. Most furnaces will have a safety that shuts down the burner when a flame roll out is detected.
Its not unlike a doctor telling you about the c word. Due to high demand for nucalgon heat exchanger crack finder solution, heat exchanger inspection system, availability is subject to change without notice. Even just a tiny crack can be large enough to allow gas to escape. Mar 11, 20 as a homeowner, getting the news that your heat exchanger is cracked is a bit of a harsh blow. Call around to find someone else to replace the exchanger. Negative and positive pressure can be created on the heat exchanger weather the fan is upstream or downstream of the heat exchanger.
Prevent a cracked furnace heat exchanger romaniuk edmonton. A flame roll out will occur when the crack opens far enough. Jandy legacy model lrzm poolspa heater by zodiac installation and operation manual. How to repair water leaking swimming pool spa heater heat. Proper diagnosis of a failed or cracked heat exchanger. When youve had your furnace inspected by an hvac expert and you get the news that you have a cracked heat exchanger, you may hear that you have two options. A demonstration of how to clean a heat exchanger on an older draft hood style gas furnace.
I confirmed by taking off the cover on the top and starting the pump back up and saw the water shooting out of the main heat exchanger copper tubes. Heater headers are a cap on the end of the heat exchanger, which is a set of copper finned tubes that the pool water gets pumped through. A negative pressure from the fan can suck flue gases out of the heat exchanger at an accelerated rate. If theres a crack in this component, the gases being burned off, such as carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, and nitrous oxide, could leak into your home, causing illness or, in extreme cases, death. The fan blows air around the chambers to pick up heat and bring it into the house. Teledyne laars lxi lxi 250 jandy lxi lxi 250 jandy parts lxi 250 pool heater parts lxi lxi lxi 250 r0453303 complete heat exchanger, copper, 250 our price. Co is produced as a result of incomplete combustion. The most common swimming pool heater problems inyo pools. Its not hard to see a furnace has a cracked heat exchanger by the naked eye. Many people use fuel oil, natural gas, or propane to power their heating systems. Have you heard this one recently, you have a cracked heat exchanger and your furnace has to be replaced, today.
However, professional hvac technicians always check heat exchangers for damage during their preseason maintenance inspection. Jandy r0470605 heat exchanger assembly, complete, copper jandy r0490103 heat exchanger tube assy, copper teledyne laars hie2 ehe 350 jandy hie2 ehe 350 jandy. The cause of cracked heat exchangers avoid this common scam. Cost to repair furnace estimates and prices at fixr. What to do about a cracked heat exchanger ballard natural. Some cracks have been known to only open when the unit is fired and the heat exchanger metal is hot. The service technician has the time, experience, or even reason to suspect the exchanger is cracked.
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